Non-Rev Rumors

[BillEsq]

Obviously going to 12 teams solves a lot of these issues. Especially if SLU and Richmond are added. However, I'm not trying to start another 12 vs 10 thread. I'm curious if anyone out there has any ideas of what the various schools will be doing with the non-revs not covered by the BE. Rumors for associate members, current BE schools adding programs, placing non-rev sports in other leagues...

This is somewhat important as FOX picked up the leagues rights to sports and if Lax is placed in another league Fox's contract would not apply. Lax is becoming a break even sport that does pick up viewership in the spring, and is great content filler for sports networks.

Anyways i think the sports in question are MLax, WLax, Wcrew, Field Hockey, W Golf, M Swimming, W Swimming, plus there are a few odd number members in other sports that potentially adding one more member might make the sport more feasible logistically. There must be some rumors out there.

[muskienick]

Adding Women's Beach Volleyball could very well become a revenue generating sport with TV contract possibilities. (Imagine all the uniform malfunctions that could occur!)

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[cm5yz6]

Adding Women's Beach Volleyball could very well become a revenue generating sport with TV contract possibilities. (Imagine all the uniform malfunctions that could occur!)

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Intercollegiate UFC? hahah

[BillEsq]

Adding Women's Beach Volleyball could very well become a revenue generating sport with TV contract possibilities. (Imagine all the uniform malfunctions that could occur!)

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try to focus here...

[yorost]

Adding Women's Beach Volleyball could very well become a revenue generating sport with TV contract possibilities. (Imagine all the uniform malfunctions that could occur!)

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Intercollegiate UFC? hahah

Beach Volleyball recently had some level of approval for becoming a NCAA sport. There are two hotspots, one around Flordia and another in California.

[BillEsq]

LOL i think the bikinis have us confused. NO BE school or any school even being remotely considered for the BE as even an associate has sand volleyball or plans on getting it in the near future. So lets get this back on topic.

Lacrosse and if swimsuits gets you going swimming. Actually I think GU has a w waterpolo team so count them in as well. so lets deal with sports we have.

[yorost]

NO BE school or any school even being remotely considered for the BE as even an associate has sand volleyball or plans on getting it in the near future.

No shit, Sherlock.

[cm5yz6]

BillEsq, what I think we have gathered is no, no one has any non-rev rumors at this time. However, can you imagine the PPV $ for intercollegiate UFC? hahahah we'd make bank.

[BillEsq]

BillEsq, what I think we have gathered is no, no one has any non-rev rumors at this time. However, can you imagine the PPV $ for intercollegiate UFC? hahahah we'd make bank.

Hmmmmmmmm it is true... if we are going that route... we can always bring up the college premier rugby league and collegiate boxing. I'm personally a fan of the BE schools expanding their sports. give up the parasite of college football and dominate every other sport.

and @ Yorost.... well played sir .... well played...

[DeltaV]

What, someone actually cares what us chlorine addicts think?

From a swimming perspective, the Big East 7 had 4 mens and 4 womens programs (although I could have sworn we swam St. Johns as well when I was there, but they may have dropped the program). Our 3 new partners add 2 womens programs and 1 mens; Creighton doesn't have either, and Butler lacks a mens's team. Of the other options, Richmond has a women's team and Saint Louis has both (Dayton has neither).

6 and 5 teams is a bit small for a championship meet, but not too bad. Most teams do non-conference competition anyway (we always swam LaSalle, did invites in Maryland and Princeton when I was there as well), and since rankings are done purely by time it isn't the end of the world if, say, Providence doesn't swim Butler (league championship seeding is just based on best time, not head to head). Swimming is unique as often men and women will practice together with the same coaching staff...at Nova it was equalized since the womens team had a full scholarship load and occasional olympians, while the mens program was non-scholarship; thus we were roughly the same speed. Even if we were at the same level of competition, you just have women in one lane, men in the next, and modify intervals slightly.

As for, say, Butler or Richmond potentially adding a team, it is both easy and difficult: easy because you can use the same coaching staff and facilities (assuming they aren't a complete dump), but difficult because of the Title IX issue (Butler has 1AA football, right?). Equipment isn't too difficult; most of us come with our own training equipment anyway (both due to personal preference in paddles, fins, pull bouys, plus they last; I used the same kick board my entire career), and suits are cheap.

I do feel a little bad for our womens team; they're losing some of the better competition they had (ND, Pitt, UConn), while I don't think any of the other BE7 teams were comparable. I did some quick lookups of results...Xavier Men's team isn't bad; they look like they would be right in the thick of it with the other programs, maybe a little faster than Nova, with their women about the same level. Butler women weren't that good. St. Louis looked a little better than Xavier for both men and women; better than Nova men, but not as fast as Nova women. Richmond women actually looked pretty fast (maybe not as fast as our women, but at least enough to have some good races); too bad they don't have a mens team.

Due to the individual nature of the sport, I doubt we'd really get any 'associate' members from lower schools, as DII and DIII swimming isn't uncompetitive, and there are no major powerhouses which could use a different home. The new AA conference, according to Wiki, has 4 mens and 6 womens programs (not including departing teams). It really would make sense for UConn and Cinci to swim with us, and let the southern schools swim in other leagues (there is such a massive distance between the two), but I don't know what will happen. I haven't been back to campus in a while; I'll chime in if I do go and hear anything interesting from my coach.