If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmond

[Bostonspider]

...and is inconsequential in measuring conference quality as neither of you have earned many. You made the Sweet Sixteen, which is great, but Dayton has been a consistently stronger program. The consistently strong program is more likely to benefit the conference basketball product as it will help bolster computer numbers and provide for a greater chance of quality wins as less chance for bad losses.

Well since UR has joined the A-10, they have been pretty equal over all, at least in conference. Dayton is 107-83 and RIchmond is 105-85. Both have 3 NCAA appearances, and UR has 2 wins, while Dayton has 1.

[yorost]

OK, I don't think it's a big deal which is chosen, I've said it in other places if you think I'm heavily pulling for Dayton. However, Dayton's Sagarin numbers (and I believe in others, too) are superior almost every year. The discussion this came out of was over conference rankings, where the computer numbers are typically used, so fair is fair in me pointing out Dayton over Richmond in this area.

[Flyer'95]

For what it's worth, Dayton has been 20-10 vs. BCS teams since 2007 with only 3 of those games actually being played on our home court. We've beaten a BCS team 17 times away from home over the last 6 years. Keeping in mind we play maybe only on average 3 or 4 per year. So while we may not have had as much ncaa success as we would like, we have consistently been a top 100RPI team (this year not withstanding). In the last 6 years or so we have posted wins over @alabama, vs. alabama at home, @louisville, louisville neutral, marquette neutral, georgia tech neutral, west virginia neutral, @Cincinnati, UNC neutral, @illinois and home vs. pitt among others. Not just middle of the pack BCS programs. But good BCS programs. We are a team that will compete. Our standing in the A10 during that time has been maddening and frustrating for our fans. But we are a program that will create a great environment for broadcasts, and become a challenging place to play. The atmostphere for a dayton big east game would be electric. It will obviously most likely come down to money, so i'll leave that up to the experts. But in terms of caliber of basketball, dayton has shown it can compete.

[sandw04]

Does anyone think a 14 team conference is out of the question? I don't know how much of the Charlotte TV market goes to Davidson, but they are an institution similar to Richmond, have a rich basketball tradition, are definitely Eastern and would offer some geographic balance with 7 Eastern and Western teams. Plus they add a 3rd school, along with Richmond and Butler that is private, but not religious. Just sayin' and maybe smoothing out feathers for whoever loses the cut.

[BillEsq]

Does anyone think a 14 team conference is out of the question? I don't know how much of the Charlotte TV market goes to Davidson, but they are an institution similar to Richmond, have a rich basketball tradition, are definitely Eastern and would offer some geographic balance with 7 Eastern and Western teams. Plus they add a 3rd school, along with Richmond and Butler that is private, but not religious. Just sayin' and maybe smoothing out feathers for whoever loses the cut.

No way... Davidson just doesn't compare to any of these schools. They may have a few NCAA bids but lets not confuse being the top dog of the SoCon with being a top flight A-10 team.

[Edrick]

Davidson has at least as strong of a basketball program as any those 3.

http://www.bbstate.com/schools/DAV/tournament
http://www.bbstate.com/schools/slu/tournament
http://www.bbstate.com/schools/rich/tournament
http://www.bbstate.com/schools/ud/tournament

But, no, I don't think a 14 team conference is on anyone's mind.

[BillEsq]

Davidson has at least as strong of a basketball program as any those 3.

But, no, I don't think a 14 team conference is on anyone's mind.

Are you serious? Your trolling right... outside of 1 year they are an occasional 13-16 seed one and done from the so-con the only thing that separates Davidson's numbers from NC A&T is that Davidson had Curry take them on a run one year. I know i rarely agree with anything you say but... this time its pretty crazy picking an average team from a conference usually ranked as the 20-30th best and comparing them to either SLU, Dayton, Richmond is kinda nuts... i swear your just trolling.

If your curious about their stats http://www.collegerpi.com/subs/index.html you just might want to look at the strength of schedule those guys play. I mean god i love davidson, and i like to cheer for the little guy, but to say these teams are ready to step up strait to the top is pretty bullish.

[Edrick]

Davidson is a clearly better basketball program than say SLU overtime, its not even very close. Are you just fishing for battles?

Who cares? Davidson isn't even up for conversation. Its irrelevant.

[BillEsq]

Davidson has at least as strong of a basketball program as any those 3.

http://www.bbstate.com/schools/DAV/tournament
http://www.bbstate.com/schools/slu/tournament
http://www.bbstate.com/schools/rich/tournament
http://www.bbstate.com/schools/ud/tournament

But, no, I don't think a 14 team conference is on anyone's mind.

Your crazy if you think a so-con team is on par with your average A-10. By your logic Montana is better than most of the C7+ and as good as the rest. You cant just look at tournament appearances. A low seed appearance from a far weaker conference does not make you a better team Edrick you have to look at more. The Top So Con team does not = the top or middle of the A-10. I'll give you that Davidson is probably better than Fordham but seriously Fordham plays a harder SOS.

[BillEsq]

Davidson is a clearly better basketball program than say SLU overtime, its not even very close. Are you just fishing for battles?

Who cares? Davidson isn't even up for conversation. Its irrelevant.

Really you kinda are the one who claimed that Davidson equals Slu or Dayton or Richmond.... so its you who are fishing for battles. I wasn't the one who brought up Davidson... hence why i thought you were just trolling for fights... I was hoping you were being sarcastic.

And i think its cute that you bash SLU then go oh.. but its irrelevant... if its irrelevant don't mention it. I don't trash your school. In fact i've never trashed any school on here. I don't go comparing teams to schools from minor 20-30 rpi strength conferences. You apparently do.