DeltaV wrote:The argument for "expand for expansion sake" or "expand to fill more slots on FS1" I think is dead. Fox has their hands at this point in both the BIG and B12, right? Which have a lot more games now. We should continue to focus on quality, name matchups that will get non alumni or casual fan eyes
Random college basketball fan will tune in for Villanova Xavier or UNConn Marquette (no offense intended to teams not named). Will they tune into a game with St Louis or any other candidate not named Gonzaga? Maybe, but the likelihood is a lot lower, and TV execs are going to put up the big state school matchups anyway.
We're already having matchups kicked to CBS sports net. Adding filler teams just means more games there or other lower tier stations
MUPanther wrote:DeltaV wrote:The argument for "expand for expansion sake" or "expand to fill more slots on FS1" I think is dead. Fox has their hands at this point in both the BIG and B12, right? Which have a lot more games now. We should continue to focus on quality, name matchups that will get non alumni or casual fan eyes
Random college basketball fan will tune in for Villanova Xavier or UNConn Marquette (no offense intended to teams not named). Will they tune into a game with St Louis or any other candidate not named Gonzaga? Maybe, but the likelihood is a lot lower, and TV execs are going to put up the big state school matchups anyway.
We're already having matchups kicked to CBS sports net. Adding filler teams just means more games there or other lower tier stations
The fear by some with Big 12 basketball coming to FS1 in 2025 would cut out some Big East games. We still don't know the numbers of Big 12 games FOX gets in basketball. IMO, can't be tons since FOX is footing 33% of the TV deal.
FenwayFriar wrote:MUPanther wrote:DeltaV wrote:The argument for "expand for expansion sake" or "expand to fill more slots on FS1" I think is dead. Fox has their hands at this point in both the BIG and B12, right? Which have a lot more games now. We should continue to focus on quality, name matchups that will get non alumni or casual fan eyes
Random college basketball fan will tune in for Villanova Xavier or UNConn Marquette (no offense intended to teams not named). Will they tune into a game with St Louis or any other candidate not named Gonzaga? Maybe, but the likelihood is a lot lower, and TV execs are going to put up the big state school matchups anyway.
We're already having matchups kicked to CBS sports net. Adding filler teams just means more games there or other lower tier stations
The fear by some with Big 12 basketball coming to FS1 in 2025 would cut out some Big East games. We still don't know the numbers of Big 12 games FOX gets in basketball. IMO, can't be tons since FOX is footing 33% of the TV deal.
Yes, the Big East will inevitably lose games on FS1. However I don't view this as a bad thing. This is one of those "a rising tide lifts all boats" situations. The Big East has done fine in ratings on FS1 for the last decade. About what to be expected, nothing spectacular but nothing terrible. But FS1 can never become a true college basketball TV powerhouse (i.e., consistently threatening ESPN in ratings) with the current lineup. We want as many power conference games away from ESPN as possible. More quality content on FS1 means less quality content on ESPN. If that means the Big East may get pushed to FS2 a little more often, so be it.
FS1 needs diversified scheduling, mixing and matching different fan bases. When the Big 10 and Big 12 fan bases get more and more games on FOX/FS1/FS2, they'll be able to truly experience the FOX experience up close and personal like we all have for the last 10 years. And they'll learn it's by far the best product out there for viewing college basketball. They'll realize 2025 ESPN ain't 1995 ESPN, 2005 ESPN, or even 2015 ESPN. With that builds loyalty, and they same "F U ESPN" mentality that we've all felt once we left. Which means more Big 10 fans watching the Big East and Big 12. Which means more Big 12 fans watching the Big East and Big 10. Which is also exactly why they're floating out this FOX-only postseason tournament. Us against them.
At the end of the day we'll still have the vast majority of our conference games on national tv, whether it's one of FS1, FS2, CBSSN, FOX, or CBS. As both a lifelong Big East fan and New England Patriots fan, I can't watch ESPN continue to crumble into the abyss fast enough.
Xudash wrote:
This post is being brought to you by the Florida State versus Boston College football game, which is currently proving to Boston College why it will not be included in the upper echelon of college football much longer.
Django wrote:Xudash wrote:
This post is being brought to you by the Florida State versus Boston College football game, which is currently proving to Boston College why it will not be included in the upper echelon of college football much longer.
Why the BC hate Dash, didn’t you go to the Jesuit university you root for? You’re a semenhole fan? You want to suck up to UCONN football fans? Well you might consider that there aren’t any on here and most have the same sentiments towards you as Bob Huggins. Except for the fluke win last year UCONN is 0-12-2 against the Eagles and it will be 1-13-2 Oct. 28 when they get curb stomped in Boston. If the rumors are true that BC and Cuse kept UCONN out of the ACC (the truth is they kept themselves out with a pathetic attempt at FBS football 20 years ago) then you should be thrilled because we get their awesome b-ball team in the Big East! I hope their shit football team loses every FBS game they play until the dimest of the dimwits that are UCONN football fans FINALLY realize they need to drop down to FCS where they should have stayed, and we get UCONN basketball forever. But they’ll prolly do what SMU did.
Xudash wrote:Django wrote:Xudash wrote:
This post is being brought to you by the Florida State versus Boston College football game, which is currently proving to Boston College why it will not be included in the upper echelon of college football much longer.
Why the BC hate Dash, didn’t you go to the Jesuit university you root for? You’re a semenhole fan? You want to suck up to UCONN football fans? Well you might consider that there aren’t any on here and most have the same sentiments towards you as Bob Huggins. Except for the fluke win last year UCONN is 0-12-2 against the Eagles and it will be 1-13-2 Oct. 28 when they get curb stomped in Boston. If the rumors are true that BC and Cuse kept UCONN out of the ACC (the truth is they kept themselves out with a pathetic attempt at FBS football 20 years ago) then you should be thrilled because we get their awesome b-ball team in the Big East! I hope their shit football team loses every FBS game they play until the dimest of the dimwits that are UCONN football fans FINALLY realize they need to drop down to FCS where they should have stayed, and we get UCONN basketball forever. But they’ll prolly do what SMU did.
Django - I believe you’re jumping to too many erroneous conclusions here.
I do not hate Boston College. My brother, who is a fellow Xavier graduate, received his MBA from BC. I have a great deal of respect for Jesuit universities, period.
At the time of my post, Florida Stste was pulling away from BC. We have talked repeatedly here about which ACC teams are well positioned for big football and which ACC teams may end up in the backseat, with BC being a program that clearly will end up in the backseat. It isn’t hate, it’s my opinion, based on assessing where every program stands at this point, especially vis-a-vis the B1G and SEC.
I am not an FSU fan. As a fan of Ohio State football, I believe UConn football is a joke, and their fanbase is out of their minds when it comes to their program’s true potential.
BTW, credit to BC for putting up a fight, and the tribute to Welles is a class move.
Xudash wrote:No problem, Django.
You may get a kick out of this: my uncle went to Notre Dame and served as an academic advisor/tutor to the football team.
He took my father and I to a game in South Bend against LSU. We were invited to the team Mass prior to the game. Ara Parseghian was two pews in front of us, and Joe Theismann and Terry Hanratty were one behind us. I remember that clearly. It was a pretty neat experience.
I was really looking forward to all the toilet paper flying from the scores by Notre Dame. Notre Dame won the game 3–0!
Otherwise, I am right there with you in terms of living in Florida. I am in Jacksonville. The SEC is huge here with the ACC in the distant but second position.
A promotion/relegation model, which is used in most professional soccer leagues around the world, allows teams to move up and down through different divisions or leagues based on their on-field performance each season. A proposal to adopt a similar structure within college football was recently drafted by Boise State associate athletic director Michael Walsh, according to Front Office Sports.
How soon?
“Sooner than later,” a Clemson senior administrator said last week when asked about a timetable.
Sometime in 2023?
“Stay very tuned,” the administrator said
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