(5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby XUFan09 » Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:37 pm

Xavier without Freemantle down the stretch went 6-3 with the three losses being by a combined 4 points and the Providence game at Cintas being the only win not already secured before the final couple possessions.
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Postby Omaha1 » Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:29 pm

Apparently we have decided that we would rather lose and play PC than win and play Nova. Gosh this is awful.
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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby stever20 » Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:59 pm

1st time in all 3 years every single conference game gets played.
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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby mel ott » Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:18 pm

stever20 wrote:1st time in all 3 years every single conference game gets played.

+1 hadn't thought of that and how it changed results.
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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:02 am

At least for the time being, Seton Hall is #74 in the NET. So Q1 land for road games against them.

for the tourney teams:
Xavier 7
UConn 6
Marquette 6
Creighton 4
Providence 4

Ironically with the SH move up, Providence picks up a Q1 win. Guess Cooley was playing 3D games there.
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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby Hall2012 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:34 am

stever20 wrote:At least for the time being, Seton Hall is #74 in the NET. So Q1 land for road games against them.

for the tourney teams:
Xavier 7
UConn 6
Marquette 6
Creighton 4
Providence 4

Ironically with the SH move up, Providence picks up a Q1 win. Guess Cooley was playing 3D games there.


It helps for now, but SHU most likely needs to reach the semis for any shot to stay in the top 75. Maybe a blowout of DePaul and close loss to Xavier gets it done, but certainly no guarantee.
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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby XUFan09 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:43 am

Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:At least for the time being, Seton Hall is #74 in the NET. So Q1 land for road games against them.

for the tourney teams:
Xavier 7
UConn 6
Marquette 6
Creighton 4
Providence 4

Ironically with the SH move up, Providence picks up a Q1 win. Guess Cooley was playing 3D games there.


It helps for now, but SHU most likely needs to reach the semis for any shot to stay in the top 75. Maybe a blowout of DePaul and close loss to Xavier gets it done, but certainly no guarantee.

If Seton Hall just plays to expectations, they probably stay in the top 75. Using Kenpom as a proxy, they are only expected to beat DePaul by 8. It doesn't need to be a blowout. A blowout of DePaul would give them some latitude, though, to then get blown out by Xavier.
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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby stever20 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:58 am

Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:At least for the time being, Seton Hall is #74 in the NET. So Q1 land for road games against them.

for the tourney teams:
Xavier 7
UConn 6
Marquette 6
Creighton 4
Providence 4

Ironically with the SH move up, Providence picks up a Q1 win. Guess Cooley was playing 3D games there.


It helps for now, but SHU most likely needs to reach the semis for any shot to stay in the top 75. Maybe a blowout of DePaul and close loss to Xavier gets it done, but certainly no guarantee.

It helps for the early part of the week when they're selecting teams for sure and doing some bracketing.
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Re: (5) Final Day of the BE season 3/4/23

Postby Hall2012 » Sun Mar 05, 2023 11:04 am

XUFan09 wrote:
Hall2012 wrote:
stever20 wrote:At least for the time being, Seton Hall is #74 in the NET. So Q1 land for road games against them.

for the tourney teams:
Xavier 7
UConn 6
Marquette 6
Creighton 4
Providence 4

Ironically with the SH move up, Providence picks up a Q1 win. Guess Cooley was playing 3D games there.


It helps for now, but SHU most likely needs to reach the semis for any shot to stay in the top 75. Maybe a blowout of DePaul and close loss to Xavier gets it done, but certainly no guarantee.

If Seton Hall just plays to expectations, they probably stay in the top 75. Using Kenpom as a proxy, they are only expected to beat DePaul by 8. It doesn't need to be a blowout. A blowout of DePaul would give them some latitude, though, to then get blown out by Xavier.


It'll be close. Obviously it doens't exist in a vacuum and depends on what teams around them do, but just assuming for a minute that it does...

Let's continue to assume the number against DePaul is 8. If they win by exactly 8, they stay put at 74. If they win a little more, they move up a spot or 2, if they win by less, they drop out of the top 75 (and if they lose this is all moot so we'll move forward assuming a win).

Now they play Xavier...probably not unreasonable to think they're expected to lose by 8 this time. Lose by 8 or less and they probably stay put, lose by more than 8 and they drop out of the top 75 unless they built themselves a cushion in the DePaul game. Win, and they're safely in the top 75 to finish the season.
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