Conference Realignment: What Next?

[gtmoBlue]

Well, now this is just ol' git, but I'd put real consideration into the Jays becoming the doorstop (Northwestern)
of the Big-12. Even at reduced rates that'd put us at about $11-15M/year. I can live with that.

You understand that this is my lone opinion, no other CU fans would contemplate such a move.

[Xudash]

Holy shit Batman:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jackmaccfb/status/1418678701135384579?s=10

[DeltaV]

Holy shit Batman:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jackmaccfb/status/1418678701135384579?s=10

I understand trying to expand and get the best schools, but what's the point of national championships if it's basically the winner of the SEC conference? In the last 15 years, the SEC has won 11 national titles, then two for Clemson and one for OSU.

Or are they trying to make the SEC basically the AAAA minor league, ACC and remaining Big 10 AAA, and so forth?

I hate football.

[Omaha1]

Holy shit Batman:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jackmaccfb/status/1418678701135384579?s=10

I understand trying to expand and get the best schools, but what's the point of national championships if it's basically the winner of the SEC conference? In the last 15 years, the SEC has won 11 national titles, then two for Clemson and one for OSU.

Or are they trying to make the SEC basically the AAAA minor league, ACC and remaining Big 10 AAA, and so forth?

I hate football.

This 20 team league could just say screw the rest of college football, divide up into two divisions and have an NFC/AFC type arrangement. Just claim their own champion is the national champ and who could argue?

[Xudash]

It gets more interesting - probably not surprising:

Ticker on NBC reporting that the PAC12 "is open to listening about expansion"; commissioner stating "we would be foolish not to listen".

Will all those surfer dudes enjoy their trips to Waco and Stillwater?

[Novachap]

It gets more interesting - probably not surprising:

Ticker on NBC reporting that the PAC12 "is open to listening about expansion"; commissioner stating "we would be foolish not to listen".

Will all those surfer dudes enjoy their trips to Waco and Stillwater?

Crazy times again Dash. Part of me wants to follow it closely but I also want to put my head in the sand and hope it doesn't too adversely affect the game I love. Hope is a great strategy! The times they are a changing ..

[Jet915]

It gets more interesting - probably not surprising:

Ticker on NBC reporting that the PAC12 "is open to listening about expansion"; commissioner stating "we would be foolish not to listen".

Will all those surfer dudes enjoy their trips to Waco and Stillwater?

Pac 12 is filled with liberal academic institutions. I have a hard time believing they will accept conservative religious schools.

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

Link: first post on Texas and Oklahoma:

Well, well:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-powers-texas-oklahoma-inquire-about-joining-sec-in-potentially-massive-shakeup-per-report/

If Texas and Oklahoma are serious about joining the SEC, the SEC would be foolish to refuse their admissions.

The University of Texas is the academic jewel in the Big 12 crown, and in 2018 Texas had the country’s most valuable football program, valued by the Wall Street Journal as being worth $1,105,493,378 with a 2018 revenue of $163,928,296.

In 2018 Oklahoma had the country’s seventh most valuable football program, valued by the Wall Street Journal as being worth $885,558,053, with a 2018 revenue of $126,416,865.


2018 College Football Value Rankings - Ryan Brewer, Wall Street Journal – 2019 (115 schools ranked)

2016 College Basketball Value Rankings - Ryan Brewer, Wall Street Journal – 2017 (176 schools ranked)

Note that a WSJ subscription is NOT required to see the full WSJ rankings linked above. For easier viewing of the lists, choose the option to display 100 rows (schools) at a time. It appears that Dr. Ryan Brewer has stopped compiling his College Sports Value Rankings, as the two lists linked above are the most recent availaible, and may or may not reflect the present rankings of the teams listed.


In 2016 Texas had the country’s 26th most valuable basketball program, valued by the Wall Street Journal as being worth $78,658,000.

In 2016 Oklahoma has the country’s 45th most valuable basketball program, valued by the Wall Street Journal as being worth $51,865,000.


Link: post on Off Topic board:

TABLE 4: Niche's 2021 Best Colleges in America - SCHOOL RANKINGS

Niche Rank • Niche Grade • School • Conference • Niche Net Price

11 • A+ • Vanderbilt Commodores • Southeastern • $25,855
56 • A+ • Florida Gators • Southeastern • $10,457
59 • A+ • Georgia Bulldogs • Southeastern • $15,961
80 • A+ • Texas A&M Aggies • Southeastern • $19,237
134 • A • Auburn Tigers • Southeastern • $23,562
161 • A • South Carolina Gamecocks • Southeastern • $21,787
164 • A • Alabama Crimson Tide • Southeastern • $20,623
167 • A- • Mississippi State Bulldogs • Southeastern • $16,471
175 • A- • Missouri Tigers • Southeastern • $15,850
182 • A- • Arkansas Razorbacks • Southeastern • $16,263
201 • A- • Ole Miss Rebels • Southeastern • $14,672
223 • A- • Tennessee Volunteers • Southeastern • $21,024
241 • A- • LSU Tigers • Southeastern • $18,143
283 • B+ • Kentucky Wildcats • Southeastern • $18,958
153 • Southeastern Conference - Average Niche Ranking for 14 Schools

57 • A+ • Texas Longhorns • Big 12 • $15,502
110 • A • TCU Horned Frogs • Big 12 • $37,509
137 • A • Baylor Bears • Big 12 • $28,372
148 • A • Iowa State Cyclones • Big 12 • $15,195
156 • A • Oklahoma Sooners • Big 12 • $21,804
160 • A • Oklahoma State Cowboys • Big 12 • $15,325
165 • A • Kansas State Wildcats • Big 12 • $18,103
179 • A- • Texas Tech Red Raiders • Big 12 • $16,463
193 • A- • Kansas Jayhawks • Big 12 • $19,195
276 • A- • West Virginia Mountaineers • Big 12 • $12,743
158 • Big 12 Conference - Average Niche Ranking for 10 Schools

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Holy shit Batman:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jackmaccfb/status/1418678701135384579?s=10

In 2018 Ohio State had the country’s second most valuable football program, valued by the Wall Street Journal as being worth $1,048,166,317, with a 2018 revenue of $136,574,384.

In 2016 Ohio State had the country’s seventh most valuable basketball program, valued by the Wall Street Journal as being worth $177,892,000.

TABLE 4: Niche's 2021 Best Colleges in America - SCHOOL RANKINGS

Niche Rank • Niche Grade • School • Conference • Niche Net Price

14 • A+ • Northwestern Wildcats • Big Ten • $26,196
23 • A+ • Michigan Wolverines • Big Ten • $17,357
61 • A+ • Wisconsin Badgers • Big Ten • $16,103
75 • A+ • Illinois Fighting Illini • Big Ten • $14,660
76 • A+ • Purdue Boilermakers • Big Ten • $12,684
82 • A+ • Penn State Nittany Lions • Big Ten • $24,724
92 • A+ • Ohio State Buckeyes • Big Ten • $18,706
96 • A • Minnesota Golden Gophers • Big Ten • $17,279
115 • A • Michigan State Spartans • Big Ten • $16,579
121 • A • Indiana Hoosiers • Big Ten • $13,036
142 • A • Iowa Hawkeyes • Big Ten • $17,008
145 • A • Rutgers Scarlet Knights • Big Ten • $16,873
190 • A- • Nebraska Cornhuskers • Big Ten • $17,093
195 • A- • Maryland Terrapins • Big Ten • $17,723
102 • Big Ten Conference - Average Niche Ranking for 14 Schools

Ranking college sports' highest revenue producers - Brad Crawford, 247 Sports - July 17, 2020

1. TEXAS — $223 MILLION
3. OHIO STATE — $210 MILLION
8. OKLAHOMA — $163 MILLION

Big East Conference - Top Sports by Revenue - School data from 2018 – College Raptor, 2021
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[GoldenWarrior11]

Ohio State and/or Michigan are not going to the SEC. The academic associations, from these (respectfully) academically snobbish schools will fight to keep their academic associations together. In addition, let's not forget that the B1G will still be paying out close to $80 million annually per member under its new deal.

The B1G does not have to make a move. Between the revenue gaps, that continue to grow, they can simply wait a number of years and take from either (or both) the PAC and ACC.

For the SEC, I think the only internal question is regarding Vanderbilt. I have a hard time envisioning them committing to the same levels as the other 15 schools, even with the same payouts. I wonder if a monetary separation could be in order, thus opening up a #16 for an Oklahoma State, or alternative member.

[Fieldhouse Flyer]

In addition, let's not forget that the B1G will still be paying out close to $80 million annually per member under its new deal.

That's a bit high.

Power Five conference revenues slowed by COVID-19 pandemic, tax records show – USA Today – May 20, 2021

►The Big Ten reported $768.9 million in revenue, down from 2019 but still about $40 million ahead of the SEC for the top figure. It lowered payouts to its 12 longest-standing members by about $1.3 million per school to $54.3 million per school.

► The SEC announced that the revenue distribution for 2019-20 fiscal year totaled $657.7 million. The average amount distributed to each of the 14 schools, excluding bowl game award money, was slightly over $45.5 million per school.

►The 10-team Big 12 reported $409 million, down by $30 million from 2019. Its payouts ranged from $37 million to $40.5 million, a decline of more than $1 million per school. The conference operated at a slight deficit for the year because of issues related to the pandemic, and it used some of its reserves to keep school payouts from being even lower, a spokesman said.

►The Pac-12 reported $533.8 million, a $3 million increase over a year earlier, and averaged payouts of about $33.6 million per school. The payouts were up by about $1.2 million per school, and the conference said about $5 million from its reserves were used to support the per-school increase so it could meet the amount that had been budgeted.

►The ACC, aided by new income from a conference TV network that launched in August 2019, increased revenue by just over $40 million to nearly $497 million. Its increased payouts ranged from $30.9 million to $37 million, plus $10.8 million to Notre Dame. Despite the revenue increase, the ACC reported a nearly $3 million annual operating deficit.

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Big Ten announces six-year deal with ESPN, Fox Sports worth $2.64 billion - Teddy Greensteing, The Chicago Tribune – July 24, 2017

The Big Ten formally announced its six-year partnership with ESPN and Fox Sports, a deal worth a reported $2.64 billion that industry analysts view as a victory for the conference.

($2.64 billion)/(6 years) = $440,000,000/year to the Big Ten conference

($440,000,000/year)/(14 Big Ten schools) = $31,428,571 per school per year.

Note that many more revenue streams contribute to each conferences total payout to member schools - including the NIL revenue, which will now go to the student-athletes - instead of the schools who 'employ' them.
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