Ranking the catholic colleges - academics

[Friarfan2]

Using the selection criteria as a measure, here are the top ten

1. Georgetown, 1300-1490, 18%
1. (Tie) Notre dame, 1340-1520, 23%
3. Boston college 1260-1450, 30%
4. Villanova, 1200-1400, 39%
4. (tie) Holy cross, 1220-1380, 36%
6. Fordham, 1160-1350, 46%
7. Gonzaga, 1110-1390, 61%
7. (Tie) Loyola Marymount, 110-1300, 55%
9. Marquette, 1070-1280, 55%
9. (Tie) Providence, 1050-1260, 61%
9. (Tie) Loyola MD, 1060-1260, 65%

[BigEast1]

Just curious FriarFan but is this your own ranking or did you see this posted somewhere?

[marquette]

Kind of belongs in the off-topic area, but ok. What's your point?

[MUSeashells&Balloons]

Schools not on the East Coast like Marquette, Gonzaga, Creighton and so on are mostly taking students based on ACT scores so using SAT scores is a worthless endeavor.

[marquette]

Selectivity is one criteria for school rankings. There are many others.

[Bulldog_Muskie]

In case anyone cares, here's how US News ranked the conference schools

National Universities
Georgetown 20
Marquette 75
Depaul 121
Seton Hall 128
St. John's 152

Regional Universities (East)
Villanova 1
Providence 2

Regional Universities (Midwest)
Creighton 1
Butler 2
Xavier 4

[marquette]

In case anyone cares, here's how US News ranked the conference schools

National Universities
Georgetown 20
Marquette 75
Depaul 121
Seton Hall 128
St. John's 152

Regional Universities (East)
Villanova 1
Providence 2

Regional Universities (Midwest)
Creighton 1
Butler 2
Xavier 4

You know, I can't for the life of me figure out what separates a "national" university from a "regional" one. I can definitely spot the difference between the national universities and Butler, Providence and Xavier, but when it comes to Creighton and Villanova I am clueless. It seems to me that BU, PC, and Xavier all have largely undergraduate institutions, with a few post-grad offerings. Creighton, on the other hand, has a law school, a dental school, a medical school, a pharmacy school and a business school that goes to the masters level (3,500 post grads in total). Villanova has a law school and offers advanced degrees in business, engineering, and nursing (3,200 post grads in total). As far as I can tell those are both very similar to the "national" universities in the conference. I guess the smallest of the national universities is Seton Hall, which has 9,700 total students, while Creighton has 7,700 and Nova has 6,400. I wonder if that's the difference.

[Jet915]

In case anyone cares, here's how US News ranked the conference schools

National Universities
Georgetown 20
Marquette 75
Depaul 121
Seton Hall 128
St. John's 152

Regional Universities (East)
Villanova 1
Providence 2

Regional Universities (Midwest)
Creighton 1
Butler 2
Xavier 4

You know, I can't for the life of me figure out what separates a "national" university from a "regional" one. I can definitely spot the difference between the national universities and Butler, Providence and Xavier, but when it comes to Creighton and Villanova I am clueless. It seems to me that BU, PC, and Xavier all have largely undergraduate institutions, with a few post-grad offerings. Creighton, on the other hand, has a law school, a dental school, a medical school, a pharmacy school and a business school that goes to the masters level (3,500 post grads in total). Villanova has a law school and offers advanced degrees in business, engineering, and nursing (3,200 post grads in total). As far as I can tell those are both very similar to the "national" universities in the conference. I guess the smallest of the national universities is Seton Hall, which has 9,700 total students, while Creighton has 7,700 and Nova has 6,400. I wonder if that's the difference.

I think it has mostly to do with total enrollment. Creighton definitely is not a "master's level" school as you pointed out with all the graduate programs we have. Creighton is #1 in the midwest for 11 years in a row now.

[JOPO]

I think the difference is actually the number of doctoral programs each college or university offers.

[gmoser1210]

I think it's awesome that only one school in the conference fell in the rankings this year. Here were the changes:

Increase
Georgetown - 21 to 20
Marquette - 83 to 75
Depaul - 134 to 121
Seton Hall - 131 to 128
Providence - 4 (North Region) to 2 (North Region)

Decrease
St. John's - 147 to 152

Unchanged
Creighton - 1 (Midwest Region)
Villanova - 1 (North Region)
Butler - 2 (Midwest Region)
Xavier - 4 (Mixwest Region)

Hopefully Xavier can pass Drake to get the #3 spot next year so we'll have the top three in the midwest and the top two in the north.