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Using the selection criteria as a measure, here are the top ten

1. Georgetown, 1300-1490, 18%
1. (Tie) Notre dame, 1340-1520, 23%
3. Boston college 1260-1450, 30%
4. Villanova, 1200-1400, 39%
4. (tie) Holy cross, 1220-1380, 36%
6. Fordham, 1160-1350, 46%
7. Gonzaga, 1110-1390, 61%
7. (Tie) Loyola Marymount, 110-1300, 55%
9. Marquette, 1070-1280, 55%
9. (Tie) Providence, 1050-1260, 61%
9. (Tie) Loyola MD, 1060-1260, 65%

Just curious FriarFan but is this your own ranking or did you see this posted somewhere?

Kind of belongs in the off-topic area, but ok. What's your point?

Schools not on the East Coast like Marquette, Gonzaga, Creighton and so on are mostly taking students based on ACT scores so using SAT scores is a worthless endeavor.

Selectivity is one criteria for school rankings. There are many others.

In case anyone cares, here's how US News ranked the conference schools

National Universities
Georgetown 20
Marquette 75
Depaul 121
Seton Hall 128
St. John's 152

Regional Universities (East)
Villanova 1
Providence 2

Regional Universities (Midwest)
Creighton 1
Butler 2
Xavier 4

Bulldog_Muskie wrote:In case anyone cares, here's how US News ranked the conference schools

National Universities
Georgetown 20
Marquette 75
Depaul 121
Seton Hall 128
St. John's 152

Regional Universities (East)
Villanova 1
Providence 2

Regional Universities (Midwest)
Creighton 1
Butler 2
Xavier 4

You know, I can't for the life of me figure out what separates a "national" university from a "regional" one. I can definitely spot the difference between the national universities and Butler, Providence and Xavier, but when it comes to Creighton and Villanova I am clueless. It seems to me that BU, PC, and Xavier all have largely undergraduate institutions, with a few post-grad offerings. Creighton, on the other hand, has a law school, a dental school, a medical school, a pharmacy school and a business school that goes to the masters level (3,500 post grads in total). Villanova has a law school and offers advanced degrees in business, engineering, and nursing (3,200 post grads in total). As far as I can tell those are both very similar to the "national" universities in the conference. I guess the smallest of the national universities is Seton Hall, which has 9,700 total students, while Creighton has 7,700 and Nova has 6,400. I wonder if that's the difference.

marquette wrote:

Bulldog_Muskie wrote:In case anyone cares, here's how US News ranked the conference schools

National Universities
Georgetown 20
Marquette 75
Depaul 121
Seton Hall 128
St. John's 152

Regional Universities (East)
Villanova 1
Providence 2

Regional Universities (Midwest)
Creighton 1
Butler 2
Xavier 4

You know, I can't for the life of me figure out what separates a "national" university from a "regional" one. I can definitely spot the difference between the national universities and Butler, Providence and Xavier, but when it comes to Creighton and Villanova I am clueless. It seems to me that BU, PC, and Xavier all have largely undergraduate institutions, with a few post-grad offerings. Creighton, on the other hand, has a law school, a dental school, a medical school, a pharmacy school and a business school that goes to the masters level (3,500 post grads in total). Villanova has a law school and offers advanced degrees in business, engineering, and nursing (3,200 post grads in total). As far as I can tell those are both very similar to the "national" universities in the conference. I guess the smallest of the national universities is Seton Hall, which has 9,700 total students, while Creighton has 7,700 and Nova has 6,400. I wonder if that's the difference.

I think it has mostly to do with total enrollment. Creighton definitely is not a "master's level" school as you pointed out with all the graduate programs we have. Creighton is #1 in the midwest for 11 years in a row now.

I think the difference is actually the number of doctoral programs each college or university offers.

I think it's awesome that only one school in the conference fell in the rankings this year. Here were the changes:

Increase
Georgetown - 21 to 20
Marquette - 83 to 75
Depaul - 134 to 121
Seton Hall - 131 to 128
Providence - 4 (North Region) to 2 (North Region)

Decrease
St. John's - 147 to 152

Unchanged
Creighton - 1 (Midwest Region)
Villanova - 1 (North Region)
Butler - 2 (Midwest Region)
Xavier - 4 (Mixwest Region)

Hopefully Xavier can pass Drake to get the #3 spot next year so we'll have the top three in the midwest and the top two in the north.