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(5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby MUPanther » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:27 am

Tuesday 11/30/21

Saginaw Valley @ Butler, 5:00pm
FS1- Matt Schumacker, Dickey Simpkins

Longwood @ Georgetown, 7:00pm
FS2- Dan Kolko, Tarik Turner
Line: Georgetown -9/135.5

UMES vs. 17 UConn (Hartford), 7:00pm
CBSSN- Jason Horowitz, Steve Lappas, Sherree Burress
Line: UConn -33/133.5

North Dakota State @ Creighton, 9:00pm
FS2- Kevin Fitzgerald, Nick Bahe
Line: Creighton -9/138

Jackson State @ Marquette, 9:00p
CBSSN- Rich Waltz, Pete Gillen, Desmond Purnell
Line: Marquette -18/135
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby Husky_U » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:37 am

Did nobody tell Butler that you're supposed to play exhibitions before the start of the season?
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby Bogg » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:48 am

Husky_U wrote:Did nobody tell Butler that you're supposed to play exhibitions before the start of the season?


Yea, not a fan of D2 schools on the schedule. Don't make Fox televise that. Hard to imagine they couldn't have found an additional Horizon or OVC team for a run of the mill buy game.
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby Hall2012 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:53 am

SHU did it for some reason this year too. All I can think of is they wanted to schedule another cupcake without hurting the SOS.
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby stever20 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:27 am

between this and Chaminade going to make it close to impossible for Butler to even have a remote shot at the tourney. The 2 wins won't count towards their record. So need instead of getting to 18-13 record probably closer to 19-12 and maybe even 20-11 will be needed. Could basically enter conference play at 5-4(beating Oklahoma but losing to Purdue). They could go 11-9 in conference and be best case on the bubble.

To me, if you have a chance of playing Chaminade in a tourney, you don't schedule another non d1 game.
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby stever20 » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:33 am

Hall2012 wrote:SHU did it for some reason this year too. All I can think of is they wanted to schedule another cupcake without hurting the SOS.

at least with SHU you guys have a good OOC schedule otherwise. Yale, Wagner, and Iona are solid teams. Michigan, Ohio St, Texas, and Rutgers.

good but not too tough. definitely in the just right column.
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby Bogg » Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:49 am

Hall2012 wrote:SHU did it for some reason this year too. All I can think of is they wanted to schedule another cupcake without hurting the SOS.


Yea, my understanding is that there's something of a loophole where a game against a D2 school doesn't technically count as a game, but a game against a low-major counts as a bad game. Setting aside my feeling that that's a dumb loophole - Fox has been good to the conference, the teams should be giving Fox something to work with. Bring in an extra Indiana public and bump your ticket sales a little, even if it's just Fort Wayne.
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby GumbyDamnit! » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:13 am

Husky_U wrote:Did nobody tell Butler that you're supposed to play exhibitions before the start of the season?


Pot meet kettle...

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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby marquette » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:33 am

Bogg wrote:
Yea, my understanding is that there's something of a loophole where a game against a D2 school doesn't technically count as a game, but a game against a low-major counts as a bad game. Setting aside my feeling that that's a dumb loophole - Fox has been good to the conference, the teams should be giving Fox something to work with. Bring in an extra Indiana public and bump your ticket sales a little, even if it's just Fort Wayne.


I could be wrong but I thought that only applied to the RPI. Something along the lines of your opponents' records impacting your RPI. So a DI school with a .333 win pct negatively impacts your opponents' overall win pct and drags down your SOS, whereas a D2 school just doesn't appear at all. I don't think it works with NET, where efficiency is more important than who you play.
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Re: (5) Tuesday Big East Games 11/30/21

Postby Bogg » Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:37 am

marquette wrote:
Bogg wrote:
Yea, my understanding is that there's something of a loophole where a game against a D2 school doesn't technically count as a game, but a game against a low-major counts as a bad game. Setting aside my feeling that that's a dumb loophole - Fox has been good to the conference, the teams should be giving Fox something to work with. Bring in an extra Indiana public and bump your ticket sales a little, even if it's just Fort Wayne.


I could be wrong but I thought that only applied to the RPI. Something along the lines of your opponents' records impacting your RPI. So a DI school with a .333 win pct negatively impacts your opponents' overall win pct and drags down your SOS, whereas a D2 school just doesn't appear at all. I don't think it works with NET, where efficiency is more important than who you play.


Whatever it is, I don't think Big East teams should be scheduling D2 schools once the season starts.
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