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If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmond

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:38 am
by glen
Plenty of opinions from fans of these schools as to why they should join the Big East. I'm interested to know the one or two main reasons why you think your school is better than the others. Bullet points only. Keep it brief. Minimize hyperbole.

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:27 am
by Bostonspider
* Most recent NCAA Success, Sweet Sixteen in 2011, NCAA tourney in 2010 and 2011
* Strongest A-10 record of the three in the last 6 years (58-38)
* Fresh Market
* History of Success in both CAA and A10 since 1984 (9 NCAA Tournaments, 8 wins)
* Proximity to East Coast schools / Balance Conference
* Best academic numbers outside Georgetown
* Largest General endowment of all the schools ($2 Billion)
* Largest Athletic endowment of all the schools ($150 Million)
* Strong Olympic Athletic Programs
* NCAA Men's Lacrosse team which allows Big East to retain auto-bid
* Coolest nickname in college sports.

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:32 am
by C7+5
Posting this here again since it is an unbiased opinion, and tells a good story:

http://playertology.com/catholic-7-infographic/

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:46 am
by glen
C7+5 wrote:Posting this here again since it is an unbiased opinion, and tells a good story:

http://playertology.com/catholic-7-infographic/

I have no dog in the fight, but its obvious that's completely biased.

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:50 am
by C7+5
Not sure why you think that is biased? Is it because you don't like the data? it's a legit website that has no affiliation or alumni writing for any of the aforementioned schools. Numbers are numbers. If you want to get into who has the hottest coeds, then you have opinoin based results. those are facts.

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:55 am
by glen
It would seem to this outsider based on the information of this unbiased source that Dayton has done less with more than any of the other choices.

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:59 am
by yorost
We're already talking about it in another thread, but those things are propaganda. They're selective evidence and doesn't give full context. Dayton might be the right choice, but this isn't a great tool to determine that.

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:01 am
by C7+5
glen wrote:It would seem to this outsider based on the information of this unbiased source that Dayton has done less with more than any of the other choices.


Can't disagree with that. The Dayton program has underachived for the resources and program following that they have.

That said, if UD scheduled properly, they wouldn't have to play a conference game at home to outdraw Richmond for an entire season of attendance. Also, although their overall market size is slightly lower that Richmond, they have almost twice the viewership.

It comes down to this. Do you want to take a school based on what they really bring to the table....or do you want to take a school that is closer to the Atlantic Ocean?

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:06 am
by yorost
Easy answer, none of Dayton, Richmond, VCU, or St. Louis bring such a convincing case for a basketball program against the others to make themselves a clear winner. None of them are definitive great adds over the other much less obvious adds. Adding them all would be a terrible choice.

Re: If adding 2 of 3 - best argument for UD, SLU, and Richmo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:10 am
by BillEsq
yorost wrote:Easy answer, none of Dayton, Richmond, VCU, or St. Louis bring such a convincing case for a basketball program against the others to make themselves a clear winner. None of them are definitive great adds over the other much less obvious adds. Adding them all would be a terrible choice.


So.. because you have three teams alike- and only spots for two- you compromise by adding 0- ???