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Postby stever20 » Wed Mar 08, 2023 10:26 pm

Just saw that Adams is out at Texas Tech.

Looking like a crazy year for coaching changes.
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Postby MullinMayhem » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:20 am

Latest rumor mill I hear is that Pitino may seriously be considered now by SJ and he may have reached out already. Also that Shrewsberry will be GTown coach.
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Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Postby stever20 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:30 am

MullinMayhem wrote:Latest rumor mill I hear is that Pitino may seriously be considered now by SJ and he may have reached out already. Also that Shrewsberry will be GTown coach.

Both would make a ton of sense. Would think for some Butler fans, that would be a gut punch with Shrewsberry.
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Postby xukeith » Thu Mar 09, 2023 6:13 pm

Ewing career at Georgetown is over. The rebuilding begins..........
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Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Postby hoops22 » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:19 pm

There's a lot of smoke regarding St. John's and Pitino right now. It's always safe to assume the Johnnies will make the wrong hire, but in this case I've changed my mind and think it will happen. Having Fr Shanley so involved in the process, seems to have made a big difference. If it happens, it'll be nice expecting the Johnnies to be playing in the BET semifinals again within the next couple of years. Can't remember the last time that happened. On the flip side, I said in this thread back on Feb 7 that i thought Cooley to Georgetown was a distinct possibility. I still stand by that, even though most people may still think I'm way off the mark. If it does happen, I wonder what names will pop up on Providence's list.
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Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Postby Jasper67 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:09 am

hoops22 wrote:I said in this thread back on Feb 7 that i thought Cooley to Georgetown was a distinct possibility. I still stand by that, even though most people may still think I'm way off the mark. If it does happen, I wonder what names will pop up on Providence's list.


Given his deep roots in Providence, why do you think that Cooley is headed to Georgetown?

There’s also the issue of one league member poaching another member’s coach. I think that would be frowned on, to say the least. I expect that there would be a lot of blow back on Georgetown for even attempting such a move.
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Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Postby hoops22 » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:29 am

Jasper67 wrote:
hoops22 wrote:I said in this thread back on Feb 7 that i thought Cooley to Georgetown was a distinct possibility. I still stand by that, even though most people may still think I'm way off the mark. If it does happen, I wonder what names will pop up on Providence's list.


Given his deep roots in Providence, why do you think that Cooley is headed to Georgetown?

There’s also the issue of one league member poaching another member’s coach. I think that would be frowned on, to say the least. I expect that there would be a lot of blow back on Georgetown for even attempting such a move.


I'll give you kind of a longwinded answer if that's okay. I think Cooley may feel he's reached his ceiling at Providence. One unexpected benefit of the recent realignment was how it helped the northeastern schools with Syracuse and UCONN gone. Top flight talent that wanted to stay in the northeast, play in front of friends and family in NBA arenas, at basketball first schools, now had different options they were prioritizing. Right after they both left, UCONN won a national championship with BE recruited players, and Syracuse started in the ACC with a 24-0 record, also with a BE recruited roster. After that it was all downhill for those two, recruiting wise, and they were no longer the dominant teams in the northeast. The beneficiaries of that became Nova, who became a true national power and Providence who became the dominant team in New England. Seton Hall also benefited, although St. John's did not, mainly due to the disastrous Mullin hire, although they did start beating Syracuse regularly. With UCONN being back again, it is resulting in them sucking a lot of the oxygen out of the room, especially in New England. Being back in the BE has resulted in them becoming the old UCONN again. This year will be the 7th time since realignment, Cooley has taken Providence to the NCAA's with a couple of NIT appearances as well. They have never had that kind of success when sharing the conference with a powerful UCONN. Also, there is uncertainty with future realignment and who may be left out, and that is something coaches likely have in the back of their mind.

I feel Cooley has achieved all he can at Providence, and would now be open to s destination where the Sweet Sixteen isn't the ceiling, but a Final Four and possible championship is. I think he likes the BE, likes being at a basketball first school, and likes a school where there remains a level of integrity, unlike a lot of the football factories. Georgetown remains a plum job with enormous upside and plenty of money, despite the recent failures. They are also better equipped to thrive in the new NIL world, although we don't know yet exactly how that will be playing out. Also if there is future realignment with basketball only schools to P5 conferences, Georgetown would likely be included, whereas Providence very possibly might not be. These are the reasons I think Cooley would consider Georgetown.

Regarding Georgetown, they have always had a bond within the African American community. I think all things being equal they would prefer to hire a black coach, although it likely isn't a prerequisite. With Cooley they get a high integrity guy, with a proven track record of success, who's resurrected a program into becoming a national power (Providence). How many coaches check all of those above boxes? Who can Georgetown hire that would be better than Cooley? It just seems to me the stars have lined up, where this is a move that makes sense for both parties.

As far as one league member poaching another members coach, I think we posters here have more loyalty to each other, and each others schools, than the schools have to themselves. It's strictly dollars and cents to all of them. This is somewhat unrelated, but when the BE was imploding after getting raided and it was debatable if a BE would even exist anymore, there was a real desperation among the remaining catholic schools. Notre Dame knew full well the spot we were in. Do you know how they let the league know that they too were leaving? By fax, not even the decency to make a call, offer any kind of scheduling assistance. It was simply sayonara. If Georgetown wants Cooley, they won't care what Providence thinks.
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Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Postby Xer4ever » Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:48 am

I hope you’re wrong on many levels, but you’ve taken me from no way to very reasonable. Excellent post!
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Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Postby billyjack » Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:05 pm

Ok, i don't see any chance of Cooley moving to the Hoyas, unless Georgetown kidnaps Ed, and places him into a vat of liquid magic mushrooms over the next 8 weeks.
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Re: 2023 Coaching Carousel

Postby billyjack » Fri Mar 10, 2023 1:18 pm

There's nothing you can do at Georgetown that you can't do at Providence.

Ed is around my age, and his introduction to sports was during a time when the Friars were a national power and a major player and influence in college hoops.

Heck, as it is, we 50+ yrs old Friar fans take credit for Georgetown's rise in the first place... a Friar alum built the Hoyas, won his first NCAA tourney game in front of us, won his first BE Tourney in front of us, and we created the conference by losing our HOF coach to Georgetown's (and others) benefit.

Not saying this isn't embellished in our heads, and not saying it doesn't sound insane to some non-Providence locals, but it is in all of our heads and that undoubtedly includes Ed Cooley.

The only caveat, which i see no evidence of, would be if Ed is being harrassed or treated ultra-poorly by crackpot fans or weirdo PC admin people, no instances of which i have ever heard of.
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