Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

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Re: Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

Postby QueRico » Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:34 pm

Right now Club Level sports are Ice Hockey, Rugby Union & Lax.
Hockey is more likely than Lax. It's been in place longer, facilities are not an issue and travel would be all bus.
Bringing back the Track & Field program would probably get a lot of support over adding any new sport.
NJ is fertile Lax territory & I'm surprised it took so long to bring back the club team.
Varsity Lax? Not in less than 5 years & only w/ strong participation leading up to that point. The main things that both hockey & Lax have going for them are 1) they are partial scholarship sports 2) they're booming in local HS's 3) abundant D1 opponents w/in a bus ride of campus. 4) fairly easy to accomodate Title IX by offering M & W teams (easier w/ Lax)
You'd be impressed w/ the coverage boys & girls Lax gets in the newspapers here. The prep schools do not dominate public schools as they used to in the past.
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Postby BillEsq » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:06 pm

QueRico wrote:Right now Club Level sports are Ice Hockey, Rugby Union & Lax.
Hockey is more likely than Lax. It's been in place longer, facilities are not an issue and travel would be all bus.
Bringing back the Track & Field program would probably get a lot of support over adding any new sport.
NJ is fertile Lax territory & I'm surprised it took so long to bring back the club team.
Varsity Lax? Not in less than 5 years & only w/ strong participation leading up to that point. The main things that both hockey & Lax have going for them are 1) they are partial scholarship sports 2) they're booming in local HS's 3) abundant D1 opponents w/in a bus ride of campus. 4) fairly easy to accomodate Title IX by offering M & W teams (easier w/ Lax)
You'd be impressed w/ the coverage boys & girls Lax gets in the newspapers here. The prep schools do not dominate public schools as they used to in the past.



I agree LAX is an easy add TIX wise because of women's LAX, and you can always play it on the soccer field. I know SLU wants hockey bad but will have a problem with both title IX and finding local opponents. I think SLU solves it with women's crew but the travel will be a tough one to fix. Its the same problem with our water polo teams, they will be forever stuck in club no division 1 opponent for 1000 miles.
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Postby yorost » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:13 pm

Women's hockey is a NCAA sport. Maybe it's costly so that's why you're not listing it opposed to crew, but hockey is a sport that balance itself for Title IX.
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Re: Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

Postby BillEsq » Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:03 pm

yorost wrote:Women's hockey is a NCAA sport. Maybe it's costly so that's why you're not listing it opposed to crew, but hockey is a sport that balance itself for Title IX.



right again... Ice hockey is the second most expensive NCAA sport... following FBS. Women's ice Hockey is a money pit as you can imagine. SLU already has the indoor crew facilities needed to compete at Div 1 level. plus facilities on open water, so no new costs, other than the scholarships. the neat thing about SLU's basketball arena is that it can be transformed into a hockey rink, but that's not cheap. Men's Hockey is potentially big enough in St louis to pay for that. Women's hockey isn't big enough anywhere to pay for that.

On a side note Sports in order of Revenue Generation for most schools... 1. FBS, 2. Basketball Distant 3-6 Hockey, FCS, Soccer, Lacrosse, 7 Wbasketball, 8 baseball, 9 all other spectator sports 10. all non spectator sports
On costs.... FBS(by wide Margin) 2. Hockey 3. (highlevel basketball)/Northern Baseball 4. low level basketball/lacrosse 5. all spectator sports other than Wvball and M/W soccer 6. Wvball and M/Women soccer 11 most non spectator sports. (swimming would be much more expensive but most pools double as student activity areas so they arn't as expensive).
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Re: Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

Postby QueRico » Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:11 am

yorost wrote:Women's hockey is a NCAA sport. Maybe it's costly so that's why you're not listing it opposed to crew, but hockey is a sport that balance itself for Title IX.

Currently there are only 35 D1 women's hockey teams, w/ the majority in the NE - although Minn, Minn-Duluth & Wisc. have won every NCAA championship (started 2000-01).
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Re: Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

Postby yorost » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:34 am

I know, I am a Wisconsin hockey fan. :P
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Re: Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

Postby MUSeashells&Balloons » Sun May 05, 2013 2:30 pm

Just a quick note on potential for lacrosse revenue Marquette just finished its final home game in its inaugural season. All though we lost terribly the attendance was of note. There were 4,202 people in attendance with at least 3,700 of those being ticketed fans(don't have a final count on non students). Just thought Id point it out because that is not an irrelevant attendance it is quite a large attendance for a non revenue regular season game. Could be big $$$$ at least for Marquette here.
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Re: Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

Postby marquette » Sun May 05, 2013 3:08 pm

MUSeashells&Balloons wrote:Just a quick note on potential for lacrosse revenue Marquette just finished its final home game in its inaugural season. All though we lost terribly the attendance was of note. There were 4,202 people in attendance with at least 3,700 of those being ticketed fans(don't have a final count on non students). Just thought Id point it out because that is not an irrelevant attendance it is quite a large attendance for a non revenue regular season game. Could be big $$$$ at least for Marquette here.


The game was also on TWC Sports. I wonder if they get any money for that. I planned to go, but watched from home since a massive hangover kept me glued to the couch.
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Re: Bellarmine v. Marquette (non rev warning)

Postby Omaha1 » Mon May 06, 2013 5:52 pm

Fr. Lannon stated today that Creighton will not be adding any sports (ie LAX) which is too bad:
No additional sports other than the ones currently offered by Creighton are required to compete in the newly formed conference. We plan to compete with the same 14 sports without expanding at the current time.
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